Name Not Given - England
"There has never been a more corrupt administration in America... we won't know the repercussions of Iraq for another 10 years"
Poll results: Number 7 overall.
Excellent: 11 votes
Very Good: 3 votes
Good: 4 votes
Poor: 2 votes
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From: Brian from Boston
(Sat Oct 30 08:41:27 2004)
Im curious about the money we spend over seas. Would this be the billions of dollars we give to poor coutnries or the billions we spend on Iraq war.
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From: Brian from Boston
(Sat Oct 30 22:36:33 2004)
Uh OH...... I think Im going to implode right now. ate some chinese food take out and my stomach is rumbling. The porcelain thrown is going to be heated up. It may implode, or crack, but most likley it will get clogged and Ill have to plunge the bastard....
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From: Frieda from Belgium
(Mon Nov 1 19:34:45 2004)
This woman is soooo right !!!
I totaly agree with her point of view.
This government is evil, corrupt, full of religous maniacs and it throws the world at least 50 years back in time; it feels rather like the middle ages to me..
So, people of the USA, this is THE day that YOU can make the difference for ALL OF US !!
May the force be with you !
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From: Ben
(Tue Nov 2 17:01:32 2004)
Frieda...thank you for your sweeping generalizations about our government. Way off base, but thanks. I'm willing to bet you don't really know what you're talking about. well...I win that bet.
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From: Frieda
(Tue Nov 2 23:31:53 2004)
Ben, if there's someone sweeping generalizations into the world, it is definitely G.W.Bush.
Deep down in your heart, you know that... I bet.
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From: Judy Jensen
(Wed Nov 3 12:39:11 2004)
I feel that half of my country is composed of idiots. I don't get it. How can half of the voters respect this man and his cronies? Why can't our nation mind its own business? Iraq wasn't the problem. Now we'll have even more soldiers die, less money to take care of people in our nation, and even less respect from other nations. It's a very sad day.
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From: Ben
(Wed Nov 3 17:56:45 2004)
Frieda...while I don't totally agree with GW's foreign policy...I also totally disagree with you. How is he making sweeping generalizations? If you are talking about us going into Iraq, I would seriously like to know how that is a sweeping generalization. We went after a government and not the citizens. If we were going after the citizens then this conflict would be over a long time ago. Also, how are you not making sweeping generalizations? Who is a religious maniac? Name for me all of the people running our government that are religious maniacs. And just because they are religious does not mean they are religious maniacs...there is a difference. Calling our government a bunch of religious maniacs has become a cop-out for people who don't see things the same way our government does. You don't agree with us fine, but don't just resort to ad-hominem attacks against those in charge.
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From: Frieda
(Thu Nov 4 08:21:55 2004)
Ben, read my lips: I like your country a lot. Let there be no mistake about that. I grew up with America as the BIG example and I was there twice. The last time, I left N-Y 5 days before 9/11. I guess I have to go back to see&feel; the changes, although the whole world changed, wherever you go. - So now we're fighting against religious fanatics who were raised under dictatorship. When religion and gouvernment rule together = a serious obstacle for democracy. - In Belgium (and Europe) we have many political party's: the catholics, the liberals, the socialists, the nationalists, the fascists, the ecologists, the communists, 2 small ,radical, workers party's and probably I forget a few. We vote and they make coalitions,sometimes 3 or 4 party's . They argue a lot and then they try to rule the land, together. Most likely our prime minister is a catholic, maybe he even goes to church every sunday. Likewise the socialist representative or the fascist senator. But none of them would even think about using that as a topic in their speeches. Like: " The catholic church gave me the strength to overcome my personal demons and now I'm ready to fight against the demons of the 'axle of evil'. 'If your not with us, you're against us'. 'You have the freedom of choice'." - 'We have to defend our family values: no homosexuality, no abortion, no softdrugs, more prisons for all the people who don't listen to us' - That was what I meant with generalizations and religious maniacs, more or less. They're everywhere, right wing fascists conservatives, they're throwing us back in time. They want everything to stay the way it was, they suffocate the world for their own profit. They hold back evolution, they don't give a shit about us. And their amount is growing. But they're victimes too, you know. - The name of the real enemy is : capitalism. And Bush is the mouthpiece of it.
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From: Ben
(Thu Nov 4 12:13:26 2004)
Actually Frieda...capitalism is not the great evil. I agree that fundamentalism is evil. Are you talking about the religious fanatics raised under the dictatorship of Saddam? I certainly hope you're not talking about America. The US has not outlawed homosexuality (just their right to marry, and that was voted on by the people). Abortion also kills about a million babies a year, but the "religious fanatics" haven't done anything about that either. If you think America is under a dictatorship then you have no idea what a dictatorship is.
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From: Frieda
(Fri Nov 5 06:51:21 2004)
Ben, just 'lost' my (very long) answer by mistake, mumble grumble, to tired to rewrite it. Hang on, I'll be back.
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From: Frieda
(Sat Nov 6 02:25:33 2004)
No Ben, I was referring to those countries where women have no rights, where men are forced to grow a beard, where they cut off your hand for stealing an apple, where they stone adulterous women and where the expression 'to live according to the Koran' is taken very literal. So people blow-up themselves for the 'jihad against the decadent western imperialsm' and of course, because 70 virgins are waiting in heaven. For each & everyone of them. Th� ultimate bonus for the martyr, you could say, hahaha...and you know, Ben, they see us as the evildoers and they have seen the light.
Also I do think a great deal of people's suffering in the world has to do with global capitalism. All the big industries: tobacco, oil, car,military, energy,weapon...you name it. All the banks with their billions of dollars (or euro's) sheer, raw profits. The few awfully rich families who possesses a great deal of the money... Don't think they have anything to do with 'making the world a better place for all of us'.... so we consume, to fill the emptyness inside. God is also inside, but only with the promise of going to heaven after a lifetime of doing what you've been told. God won't give you money to make you feel good. Instead God gives you a 3rd child. You wanted an abortion, because you know that your current situation is too hopeless to raise a child properly, but they won't let you, it's against God's will. No affordable healthcare, little social security, no unemployment allowance, little welfare, but hey....I live in a free country. It's up to me whether I can make my dreams come true. And when the economy has reached the point where the offer is greater than the demand, we can always start a war. Good for the employment and last but not least... the holy consumption. So help me God.
-- Our ancestors fought for social security, proper education, the right to vote, against childlabour, etc...we have it all, but how long will it last? In Europe we have also high unemployment, right wing party's are spinning wool by the global situation and gaining power. Schools, clinics, postoffices, universities, you name it, get less money = less people to do the same amount of work. More stress, more agression, more competition, more madness.
We've reached a historic turning point, I think. The beginning of the decline of capitalism... as we know it. Imagine capitalism as a very huge & strong animal; deathly wounded. His death agony is gonna be tremendously violent and terribly long, and he 's gonna drag everything in his surroundings with him into death. Nasty ! -- I think we must see Earth as a spaceship on which we're all depending for our existence. People won't give up easily the things they've taken for granted for, let's say, the last 50 years. If we continue to exhaust, overuse, exploit this planet we will choke in our own shit. -- Three more things: I'm an optimistic person by nature, these letters certainly improve my english vocabulary and maybe I ought to write scenario's.
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From: Frieda
(Sat Nov 6 03:05:37 2004)
No, Ben, I was referring to those countries where women have no rights, where men are forced to grow a beard, where they cut off your hand for stealing an apple, where they stone adulterous women and where the expression ' to live according to the Koran' is taken very literal. So people blow-up themselves for the 'jihad against the decadent western imperialism'. And of course for the 70 virgins who are waiting in heaven. For each&everyone; of them. Th� ultimate bonus of the martyr, you could say, haha...and you know, Ben, they see us as the evildoers and they have seen the light.-- I also think a great deal of people's suffering in the world has to do with global capitalism. All the big industries: tobacco, oil, cars, military,energy, weapons... All the banks with their billions of dollars (euro's) sheer, raw profits. Those few awfully rich families with a great deal of the money. Don't think they're busy with 'making the world a better place for all of us'...So we consume, to fill the emptyness inside. God's inside too, but only with the promise of going to heaven after a lifetime of doing what you've been told. God won't give you money to make you feel good. Instead God gives you a 4th child. You want an abortion, because you know your current situation is too hopeless to raise a child properly. They won't let you, its against God's will. No affordable healthcare, little social security, no unemployment allowance, little welfare...But, hey... I live in a free country, it's up to me whether I can make my dreams come true, so help me God. And when the economy has reached the point where the offer is bigger than the demand, we can always start a war. Good for the employment and last but not least...the holy consumption. -- Our ancestors fought for proper education, against childlabour, for social security, the right to vote,etc... We have it all, but how long will it last? In Europe we have also a high unemployment, right wing party's are spinning wool by the global situation and gain power. Schools, clinics, postoffices, universities, you name it, get less money = less people to do the same amount of werk. More stress, more competition, more agression, more madness.-- We've reached a historic turning point, I think. The beginning of the decline of capitalism..as we know it. Imagine capitalism as a huge & strong animal; deathly wounded. His death agony is gonna be tremendously violent and terribly long. He's gonna drag everything in his surroundings with him into death. --I think we must see Earth as a spaceship on which we're all depending for our existence. People won't give up easily the things they've taken for granted for, let's say, the last 50 years. If we continue to exhaust, overuse, exploit this planet, we will choke in our own shit. -- Three more things: I'm an optimistic person by nature, these letters certainly improve my english vocabulary and maybe I ought to write scenario's.
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From: Ben
(Sat Nov 6 06:36:19 2004)
Frieda--okay I just wanted to make sure that you weren't implying that the US was a dictatorship or anything. Also, in regards to the comments you made about god and abortion...etc. If you are so in poverty, and don't want to have a child, then you do have a choice. 1-don't have sex. 2-use birth control. Really now, condoms don't cost that much. I have a hard time feeling sorry for somebody dealing with the consequences of their actions when they knew the consequences beforehand and went ahead and did whatever they wanted to do anyway. Just because she had sex, got pregnant, and decided she is now going to make the choice to not have a kid doesn't mean that I should have to help pay for it through my tax dollars. (happens)
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From: Frieda
(Sat Nov 6 08:31:15 2004)
Ben, this was just an example of how shit happens and the choices people have to make. By the way, they do a lot more things with your tax money, I presume. Maybe things you won't approve either.... if they would ask. But again, it's pretty much the same here in Europe. Still, I kiss my both hands for being born in this high industrialized part of the world, where most of the battles are struggled years ago. Imagine to live in Palestina, Irak, Rwanda, Tsjetsjenie, Sudan, Afghanistan and so on and on...
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From: Chris
(Tue Nov 16 23:06:22 2004)
She is probably amazed that Bush DID get re-elected. (Lots of us are amazed) Brace yourself, lady- this is gonna hurt us more than it will hurt you! (If you're lucky).
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From: Nanci - CA
(Thu Nov 18 11:11:00 2004)
I agree fully - our country is becoming corrupt, business is in bed with politics, corporate profits are more important than the environment, tax cuts for the rich are more important than health care, oil is more important than education and the christian right is more concerned with what goes on in the bedroom than where the homeless sleep. We are hading our children the largest deficite in history for a war they won't even remember. I'm disgusted and scared for the condition of our country in 30 years.
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From: Optimist
(Sat Nov 20 09:19:11 2004)
...if your country is still there in 30 years.
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